Loose Change Fried 8

See Loose Change Fried 1, Loose Change Fried 2, Loose Change Fried 3, Loose Change Fried 4, Loose Change Fried 5, Loose Change Fried 6, and Loose Change Fried 7.

     Here are yet more lies from Loose Change, this time focusing on the issue of flight recorders, cell phone calls, and miscellaneous stuff ( reference).

     At 1 hour, 1 minute, and 35 seconds, Loose Change provides a quote from Osama Bin Laden that was aired on Al Jazeera to “prove” the U.S. government was involved, so according to them, Bin Laden is more believable than the REAL experts ( source). Nice try.  By the way, Al Jazeera is NOT an unbiased source- it tends to lean heavily against the United States, thereby making it a rather questionable source

     Also in the same time frame, Loose Change claims that it would be far simpler to figure out what happened if we had the black boxes, while ignoring the fact that the black boxes were indeed recovered from Flights 77 and 93 ( source).

     Next Loose Change goes on to claim that the black boxes are made from “ the most impervious metals known to man”  but does not specify what those metals are. They further imply that the black box recordings cannot be destroyed, which is false ( reference).

     At just over 1 hour and 3 minutes, Loose Change uses the fact that passports and such ( i.e., “fragile materials) were found on the streets below as more of their so-called proof.  Hint: explosions are NOT predictable.  After all, explosions tend to radiate out in ALL directions. In addition, other stuff, such as body parts, seat cushions, etc, was found as well. ( source)

    Loose Change further uses a quote from Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board stating that it was rare for them not to get the recorders back ( reference).

     Granted, the previous statement is technically true, but this quote from here shows what Loose Change left out: “It’s also extremely rare for airliners to crash at full speed into skyscrapers, which collapse into 2 billion pounds of wreckage that burns for 99 days.”

     At about 1 hour and 5 minutes, Loose Change repeats the lie about another United Airlines plane, Flight 1111, having the tail number of N591UA, the same number as flight 93, which CRASHED IN SHANKESVILLE, PA!   They don’t even consider the possibility that someone may have simply misread the tail number.  Loose Change further states that the numbers N591UA and N612UA are still valid, while ignoring the fact that as this quote here states (emphasis is mine), “ That’s right. The numbers are kept in the reserved “N” number database by the airlines for possible future use. They do NOT indicate active aircraft.”

     Loose Change further states that those particular planes were not even scheduled to fly that day ( source). The problem is there are plenty of innocent reasons that those planes did fly: 1)  The planes that were originally scheduled to fly could have been undergoing routine maintenance, 2) they could have had mechanical problems,  3) they could have simply been delayed at another airport due to bad weather or any number of innocent reasons

     At about 1 hour and 6 minutes, they go into the lies about the cell phone calls ( reference).

     They start with Betty Ong, a flight attendant on Flight 11 and claim she ALLEGEDLY made a phone call from Flight 11, while pointing out that only 4 minutes of her 23 minute call was recorded.  Loose Change ignores the fact that the reason only the first four minutes were recorded is due to the time limit on a recently installed system ( source).

     Loose Change further states Betty Ong did not sound like someone who had seen three people murdered.  There’s just one tiny detail:  that’s NOT what Betty Ong said; she said the people had been STABBED (source).   Hint to Loose Change ( and “truthers” in general):  Stabbed does NOT mean dead.

     At about 1 hour and 7 minutes, Loose Change uses a discrepancy of 1  person between flight attendant Madeline Sweeny’s number of hijackers and the FBI’s number ( she said 4, the FBI said 5), and the fact that they placed them in slightly different seats as “proof.”   ( reference). Hint:  if one is in a tense situation- and I would imagine being aboard a hijacked plane to be one-  one may make innocent mistakes in the confusion.

     While we’re at it, Madeline Sweeny NEVER screamed.   This quote from here shows what REALLY took place between Sweeny and her ground manager, Michael Woodward:  “Woodward asked Sweeney to look out of the window and see if she could tell what was going on. “I see the water. I see the buildings. I see buildings,” she told him…Sweeney told Woodward the plane was flying very low. Then, he said, “She took a very slow, deep breath and then just said, ‘Oh, my God!’ Very slowly, very calmly, very quietly. It wasn’t in panic.”

     Loose Change makes this comment found here:  Madeline was a flight attendant out of Boston for 12 years. I think she would have recognized Manhattan.”  I suggest the producers of Loose Change read the quote a bit more carefully- there is NOTHING in her statements to indicate she did not recognize Manhattan.

     While we’re on the subject, most of the calls came from AIR PHONES (source).

     At 1 hour and 8 minutes, Avery quotes professor A.K Dewdney’s Project Achilles as “proof” that cell phones won’t work on airplanes.  The problems are: 1) The air phones were GTE, the cell phones Dewdney used were Motorola’s, 2) He did NOT follow the paths of the 4 hijacked airliners, 3) he never got anywhere near 32,000 feet, the average cruising altitude for a commercial airliner since he flying a Cessna, which can get up to about 17,000 feet, tops. ( source).

     In addition, cell phones did so work at the altitudes that commercial airliners fly at in 2001- just not very well.  After all, cell phones had more power back then ( source).

     Clearly, the producers of Loose Change wouldn’t know a fact if it bit them in the butt.

 

 

 

 

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Posted October 22, 2008 by Victor Chabala in Real 9/11 Facts

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