Exposing "Truther" lies

Here are some more “truther lies and some quick responses to them,  which can be found here.

Lie # 1: People in caves could not carry out the attack.

First of all, as this link points out,  that comment is rather racist.

Here are some more facts to counter that lie, found here: 1)  Bin Laden took civil engineering classes while the Twin Towers were being built, 2) Despite CT claims,  some of the hijackers did indeed have flying experience, 3)  those four airliners filled with sufficient jet fuel to get them from the East Coast to the West Coast were themselves flying bombs, and 4) Prior to 911, the standard operating procedure in response to hijackings was to cooperate due to the fact that before 9/11/01, a hijacking simply meant a detour.

As for the radar transponders, it’s not that difficult to evade the radar due to the fact that there are around 4000 commercial airliners in the air over the U.S. at any given time. Furthermore,  even WITH the transponders on, it’s still tough to locate the correct plane- after all, there was one plane on September 11, 2001 that had nothing to do with the attacks,  yet an intercept was planned for it ( source ).

This quote from here makes the point quite nicely: “It may have been easier to intercept an airliner with the transponder on but even that isn’t easy due to the amount of airliners in the air at the time. One airliner that didn’t have anything to do with the attack was thought to be a hijacking and people were planning an intercept. Can you imagine if that plane was brought down by accident? Conspiracy theorists want us to believe it’s easy to quickly find these flying “needles in the haystacks” when they can’t even find photos of iron workers cutting columns at an angle during cleanup. Not even when it’s on the same web site and they have all the time in the world to find it.”

Lie # 2:  It’s the first time in history a steel frame high-rise collapsed (source)

First of all, here are the facts, as evidenced by this quote from here: “There were a lot of firsts for the WTC. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been hit with a plane traveling 500 miles an hour and had its fire proofing removed from its trusses. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever had its steel columns which hold lateral load sheared off by a 767. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been a building which had its vertical load bearing columns in its core removed by an airliner. For Building 7, in all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been left for 6-7 hours with its bottom floors on fire with structural damage from another building collapse. Not the Madrid/Windsor tower did not have almost 40 stories of load on its supports after being hit by another building which left a 20 story gash. The Madrid tower lost portions of its steel frame from the fire. Windsor’s central core was steel reinforced concrete. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been without some fire fighters fighting the fires.”

Second,  I addressed this point in a previous article. The steel buildings that collapsed due to fire are as follows: The Kader Toy Factory fire on 5/10/93, a textile factory in Egypt on 7/19/00, and the Enigma Business Park fire ( again, thanks to ScrewLooseChange  for bringing that one to my attention) on 11/1/06 ( source).

Lie # 3:  They collapsed into their own footprint ( reference).

These quotes from here tell the truth: “The floors of the towers fell straight down while the perimeter columns leaned out,” and “These buildings could not collapse any other way due to the design of the building. It was not a solid block.”

There are more lies which I will address in future articles, but clearly,  the “truthers” show an appalling lack of understanding of the laws of physics.

 

 

 

 

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Posted November 3, 2008 by Victor Chabala in Real 9/11 Facts

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